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I decided that I needed to have Valiant Hearts on my itouch as well as on the home computer. So... now I do. I'm so glad.

Really though, it's going to be handy to have a version of it that I can play without booting up the shared home computer (as I mentioned before, it doesn't run on my own laptop). Mainly because I want to write up a timeline of the canon events for my own reference. I've checked already; there doesn't seem to be a writeup on the internet. And while of course I can find dates for the historical events, I'm going to need reference for the character events if I am going to write anything set during the canon. ... Which I plan to. In fact, I already have ideas. Several of them. Some of which have to do with actual historical events.

FML, I'm going to have to do so much research on France during WWI, aren't I.

One thing that did surprise me on starting second playthrough is, in the letters, Marie is still addressed using Emile's surname. She's addressed as Marie Chaillon, not Marie (Karl's surname).

And that made me realize... I was positive that she and Karl were married, but now that I think about it I don't think they were ever actually referred to as husband and wife in the actual story. And that strikes me as a little odd, because it feels like they should be married - they have a very established relationship, they even have a kid; and according to the character profiles Emile is religious, so one would think that he'd want his daughter to get married if she fell in love with a suitable man (and he obviously considers Karl suitable - the story makes it clear that Emile loves and cares for him very much.)

I mean, I guess it's possible that they aren't married, and the signs are currently pointing to "????" (though I will have to check as I replay it) but it still feels a little odd to me that in 1913/14 a woman from a religious family in rural France would have a permanent relationship with a guy, and have a kid with him, and not be married to him. But maybe it's more likely than I'm assuming? I really have no idea. I wonder if the fact that Karl is not a French citizen would've had something to do with it.



Or maybe they are married, and there is just a logical reason that a married woman would be addressed with her father's surname in a formal letter. I'm not sure.

Oh man, this is going to bug me for ages until I find answers. I guess what I should do first is finish my replay, so that I can confirm whether or not there's anything in the game that indicates whether Marie and Karl are married or not. And then go on from there. I mean, it isn't really a big deal; going by comments I've seen in the few discussions I've found, everyone seems to assume that Karl is Marie's husband. And even when I do write fic (because there will be fic) the subject isn't that likely to come up. But it's going to bug me for ages until I know what the canon says for sure, pfffffff.

Date: 2014-11-03 03:29 am (UTC)
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Well, Karl is definitely referred to as Emile's son-in-law at some point (after he and Freddie meet up with Anna, I believe), so I assumed that meant Karl and Marie were married. I never noticed the last name thing though. That is strange.

Could be that the game developers just overlooked it, or didn't want to bother with it seeing as they didn't give any of the other playable characters last names. Or maybe that was just the norm in France, not taking the husband's name. Wikipedia says "Contrary to popular belief, and also contrary to the practice of some other countries, French women do not legally change names when they marry. However, it is customary that they take their husband's name as a "usage name"." Buuut of course it's wikipedia, so take that with a grain of salt.

Date: 2014-11-03 03:49 am (UTC)
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Ah, I found it! It's in Anna's 5th diary entry. "I managed to save Emile's son-in-law before they sent him to a POW camp." I knew I saw it somewhere.

Ffff, and I don't really consider wikipedia looking something up! I'd definitely try to find a more reliable source if you're able. Especially considering there's a good chance that naming customs weren't exactly the same back then. But I wouldn't even know where to begin looking up something so specific, so I'm afraid you're on your own on that one. ;3;

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