Regarding RP, yes on all your points. Especially the missing plot + natural progression. To be honest, I don't like the influence over RPers at all, especially regarding what will or will not happen. I was speaking to Iceland today, and our conversation made me remember back when the whole thing with the Nordic soap opera started, with horny_viking and iceandheather and the abstinence plot. I found myself thinking about how everything progressed rather organically, not too forced or anything, and it just went really well and it was so -- fun. That's all. And then Kongeriketnorge stepped in and I stepped out and then other things happened and then the mood of RP changed and now I don't know what to do with myself, but anyway
At that point plots were worked out almost completely between the RPers themselves, and the planning was minimal (usually I didn't even know when h_v would post his thread), and there was very little backseat driving by anonymous users, if any. I preferred it that way. Now, it seems I can't find any points where I want to jump in, and everything is so controlled anyway (stifling?) so I just... haven't been doing it at all. Sigh.
I've given up on the meme slowing down. At this point, I don't think it will - especially on weekends. But I've come to really appreciate the dead hour - not the extremely dead hour, but when it's active, just slowish. A lot of my favourite people are around then - mostly Euroanons and Asianons - and it's great talking to these people, having conversations with them. I do prefer this to a dead fandom, though I'm not sure how "dead" something has to be in order for it to be considered dead, considering I'm not really used to the way fandoms come and go.
Re: ~helping~ people, it's great to want to give help and orchestrate positive change, but generally, when it comes to things, you can discuss with someone until you're blue in the face, but they won't change a bit. With this sort of thing, it's better if they do it on their own, because they usually won't change with assistance. I find that modeling what you feel is the best direction works well, in comparison.
I SEE YOUR RAGE AND I LOVE IT. LET US RAGE TOGETHER. To be honest, I don't understand the smugness at all. I can understand being happy that your favourite pairing became canon, but I do not understand being smug about it. To me, liking something is about you, and what other people like should have nothing to do with you if you do not like or are not interested in that match. I just can't fathom caring about it at all. I'm quite glad that I don't see much of this idiocy in Hetalia fandom. I mean, okay, sometimes we run into people grumbling about US/UK and whatnot, but for the most part people just ignore it if they don't like it, and even if they do grumble about it, half the time they're really grumbling about the dearth of fanwork for their own favourite pairing, rather than the existence of US/UK.
I find that even when I do like canon matches, it's the non-canon ones, just touched upon, that really intrigue me. I'm not sure why that is. Probably just the openness, the possibility. Today I was thinking back to Homeric legend, and the various matches I like with that, and found that even while I feel very strongly about the canon and my preferred canon matches (Odysseus/Penelope, Hektor/Andromache), it is the characters/pairings with less "canon" material, less screen time, that really draw me (Sarpedon/Glaukos - I even wrote "fanfiction" about them, once, for a school assignment).
But as far as Hetalia goes, I do like having some canon, and filling in the extra bits with history. I don't view history as canon, just as another option to draw from, because it can be interpreted in several different ways. Nor is it required. So it's a nice extra thing, something I love to work with. (and at this point now I'm just babbling, but anyway)
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Date: 2009-10-14 08:07 am (UTC)And then Kongeriketnorge stepped in and I stepped out and then other things happened and then the mood of RP changed and now I don't know what to do with myself, but anywayAt that point plots were worked out almost completely between the RPers themselves, and the planning was minimal (usually I didn't even know when h_v would post his thread), and there was very little backseat driving by anonymous users, if any. I preferred it that way. Now, it seems I can't find any points where I want to jump in, and everything is so controlled anyway (stifling?) so I just... haven't been doing it at all. Sigh.
I've given up on the meme slowing down. At this point, I don't think it will - especially on weekends. But I've come to really appreciate the dead hour - not the extremely dead hour, but when it's active, just slowish. A lot of my favourite people are around then - mostly Euroanons and Asianons - and it's great talking to these people, having conversations with them. I do prefer this to a dead fandom, though I'm not sure how "dead" something has to be in order for it to be considered dead, considering I'm not really used to the way fandoms come and go.
Re: ~helping~ people, it's great to want to give help and orchestrate positive change, but generally, when it comes to things, you can discuss with someone until you're blue in the face, but they won't change a bit. With this sort of thing, it's better if they do it on their own, because they usually won't change with assistance. I find that modeling what you feel is the best direction works well, in comparison.
I SEE YOUR RAGE AND I LOVE IT. LET US RAGE TOGETHER. To be honest, I don't understand the smugness at all. I can understand being happy that your favourite pairing became canon, but I do not understand being smug about it. To me, liking something is about you, and what other people like should have nothing to do with you if you do not like or are not interested in that match. I just can't fathom caring about it at all. I'm quite glad that I don't see much of this idiocy in Hetalia fandom. I mean, okay, sometimes we run into people grumbling about US/UK and whatnot, but for the most part people just ignore it if they don't like it, and even if they do grumble about it, half the time they're really grumbling about the dearth of fanwork for their own favourite pairing, rather than the existence of US/UK.
I find that even when I do like canon matches, it's the non-canon ones, just touched upon, that really intrigue me. I'm not sure why that is. Probably just the openness, the possibility. Today I was thinking back to Homeric legend, and the various matches I like with that, and found that even while I feel very strongly about the canon and my preferred canon matches (Odysseus/Penelope, Hektor/Andromache), it is the characters/pairings with less "canon" material, less screen time, that really draw me (Sarpedon/Glaukos - I even wrote "fanfiction" about them, once, for a school assignment).
But as far as Hetalia goes, I do like having some canon, and filling in the extra bits with history. I don't view history as canon, just as another option to draw from, because it can be interpreted in several different ways. Nor is it required. So it's a nice extra thing, something I love to work with. (and at this point now I'm just babbling, but anyway)