I'm posting as anon cause IT JUST FEELS RIGHT. and i'm posting it here because. . . I dunno . IT JUST FEELS RIGHT. and i'm too afraid to post it elsewhere :|
I'm tired so thoughts are coming in pretty slowly, and they are coming in pretty jumbled too. Not to mention I held off writing this for a bit, ahaha cause I wasn't in the mood to tl;dr but yeah. and then there's the fact that when I'm tired I have a non existent attention span
This is all nonsense. Really. I went off on a tangent, I don't even think what I'm talking about is even relevant to what I was supposed to be talking about. so this is more or less some random rambly bits on my thoughts on these two. For taking so long this should probably sound a great deal more intelligent, but whatever. Such is life.
also I don't know if the fact that I ship these two like FedEx has any, err, influence on what I wrote. I think it's pretty easy to assume that this can be mostly platonic, for all your Est/Fin lovin' needs
okay the bit where I actually started typing is here:
I mean, maybe it's not because I'm thinking coherently, but I don't even know where to start with the matter you gave me! I see that kind of thing and I'm just, well, totally boggled.
It's not like Sweden's a great deal more powerful than him anymore, they're fairly even now, I think. Certainly comparable. I don't really want to make too many assumptions as far as that concerned, as I'd probably have to dig up some information and statistics and all, but the bottom line is that Sweden isn't this powerful empire looming right beside a small little ethnic group anymore.
I don't think lots of people even bothered giving thought as to why Finland would be afraid of Sweden in the first place (back in the day), though it doesn't take much thinking as to figure out why he would be. Sweden had enough power back in the day to totally own Finland, if he so wanted to. Finland just didn't have the means to protect himself. I mean, if I recall correctly, Finland didn't even have it's own army or anything, cause all Finns went to fight for Sweden and not Finland (I could totally be wrong, though). We all know that Sweden fails at expressing his benign intentions, so thanks to that you got a Finland who was continuously afraid of him because he didn't know that Sweden just simply wouldn't harm him like that.
Actually, Sweden being powerful and all would probably explain a lot as to why Finland seemed to latch on to him in the comic. I'd assume that that would imply some kind of self-awareness in Finland. He must've known real well that as a nation, he was pretty weak so it's best he appears likable to Sweden. Independence would be ace and all, but being as weak as he was, being under control a more powerful nation was certainly better than having to fight against one, you know? And being under a powerful nation would probably be easier if you were on good terms with them, which is probably were you get endearing nicknames such as su-san :| (though I personally would prefer Finland calling Sweden like, oh, Sve or something. Ruosti's/Ruo's cute, but considering the Swedish attitude towards the Finnish language back in the day, I don't think that'd be wise).
Ooh, that reminds me: it's really strange to hear people refer to these two as married. I mean, in the sense that say, Austria-Hungary was "married" (or Sweden-Norway, cause I know you'd like that more. THough, err, I dunno if they're even the same sort of deal because truth be told, I don't know anything about the Sweden-Norway union. Speaking of that, how's the fic going? ) Sure, you could maybe argue that Finland was sort of playing a more traditional role of a "wife" in that he was with someone and his voice didn't matter so much (though you'd have to make your argument pretty carefully) but I mean, even though Finland played a big part, especially in fighting wars and all, there wasn't a real union of governments, was there? Finland was a province of Sweden. I don't think they were married any more than Estonia was married to Sweden, you know? OKAY BUT MOVING ON TO HOW THEIR RELATIONSHIP NOW ISN'T LIKE IT WAS BACK IN THE DAY
9574 is bigger than 4300 WHYYY DO I DO THIS but okay you asked for this nonsense :|
and i'm posting it here because. . . I dunno . IT JUST FEELS RIGHT. and i'm too afraid to post it elsewhere :|
I'm tired so thoughts are coming in pretty slowly, and they are coming in pretty jumbled too. Not to mention I held off writing this for a bit, ahaha cause I wasn't in the mood to tl;dr but yeah. and then there's the fact that when I'm tired I have a non existent attention span
This is all nonsense. Really. I went off on a tangent, I don't even think what I'm talking about is even relevant to what I was supposed to be talking about. so this is more or less some random rambly bits on my thoughts on these two. For taking so long this should probably sound a great deal more intelligent, but whatever. Such is life.
also I don't know if the fact that I ship these two like FedEx has any, err, influence on what I wrote. I think it's pretty easy to assume that this can be mostly platonic, for all your Est/Fin lovin' needs
okay the bit where I actually started typing is here:
I mean, maybe it's not because I'm thinking coherently, but I don't even know where to start with the matter you gave me! I see that kind of thing and I'm just, well, totally boggled.
It's not like Sweden's a great deal more powerful than him anymore, they're fairly even now, I think. Certainly comparable. I don't really want to make too many assumptions as far as that concerned, as I'd probably have to dig up some information and statistics and all, but the bottom line is that Sweden isn't this powerful empire looming right beside a small little ethnic group anymore.
I don't think lots of people even bothered giving thought as to why Finland would be afraid of Sweden in the first place (back in the day), though it doesn't take much thinking as to figure out why he would be. Sweden had enough power back in the day to totally own Finland, if he so wanted to. Finland just didn't have the means to protect himself. I mean, if I recall correctly, Finland didn't even have it's own army or anything, cause all Finns went to fight for Sweden and not Finland (I could totally be wrong, though). We all know that Sweden fails at expressing his benign intentions, so thanks to that you got a Finland who was continuously afraid of him because he didn't know that Sweden just simply wouldn't harm him like that.
Actually, Sweden being powerful and all would probably explain a lot as to why Finland seemed to latch on to him in the comic. I'd assume that that would imply some kind of self-awareness in Finland. He must've known real well that as a nation, he was pretty weak so it's best he appears likable to Sweden. Independence would be ace and all, but being as weak as he was, being under control a more powerful nation was certainly better than having to fight against one, you know? And being under a powerful nation would probably be easier if you were on good terms with them, which is probably were you get endearing nicknames such as su-san :| (though I personally would prefer Finland calling Sweden like, oh, Sve or something. Ruosti's/Ruo's cute, but considering the Swedish attitude towards the Finnish language back in the day, I don't think that'd be wise).
Ooh, that reminds me: it's really strange to hear people refer to these two as married. I mean, in the sense that say, Austria-Hungary was "married" (or Sweden-Norway, cause I know you'd like that more. THough, err, I dunno if they're even the same sort of deal because truth be told, I don't know anything about the Sweden-Norway union. Speaking of that, how's the fic going? ) Sure, you could maybe argue that Finland was sort of playing a more traditional role of a "wife" in that he was with someone and his voice didn't matter so much (though you'd have to make your argument pretty carefully) but I mean, even though Finland played a big part, especially in fighting wars and all, there wasn't a real union of governments, was there? Finland was a province of Sweden. I don't think they were married any more than Estonia was married to Sweden, you know? OKAY BUT MOVING ON TO HOW THEIR RELATIONSHIP NOW ISN'T LIKE IT WAS BACK IN THE DAY